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Your take on 2102
Hello Lovelies.....
Wanted to find out what your current thoughts on 2012 are...
So far I have a kind of mixed up feeling about it....
I am pretty sure there is a very important alignment with the Galactic Center that will happen....which has the potential to affect us in many ways, both physically and Spiritually..
It is the end of an important cycle as indicated by the Mayan Calendar, check out http://www.thegreatnetwork.com/forum/topics/the-enddate-of-the
Or as some say the Mayan Calendar suggests, it could be an exciting time of conscoiusness evolution for us all:
http://www.thegreatnetwork.com/forum/topics/the-mayan-calendar-and-the
I think there could also be some pretty damn exciting Solar Activity ala Knowing!!!!! Check out this article in New Scientist
http://www.thegreatnetwork.com/forum/topics/space-storm-alert-90-se...
If that was not enough remote viewers are not painting the most rosie picture! You can listen to the audio on the homepage @ http://www.thegreatnetwork.com - down the bottom - under music!
And then there are those pesky web bots!
http://www.thegreatnetwork.com/video/the-web-bot-and-2012
Or nothing at all might happen! In a pole I saw - 50% of people think nothing is going to happen at all - so - what DO you think??
Come join the discussion!
Wanted to find out what your current thoughts on 2012 are...
So far I have a kind of mixed up feeling about it....
I am pretty sure there is a very important alignment with the Galactic Center that will happen....which has the potential to affect us in many ways, both physically and Spiritually..
It is the end of an important cycle as indicated by the Mayan Calendar, check out http://www.thegreatnetwork.com/forum/topics/the-enddate-of-the
Or as some say the Mayan Calendar suggests, it could be an exciting time of conscoiusness evolution for us all:
http://www.thegreatnetwork.com/forum/topics/the-mayan-calendar-and-the
I think there could also be some pretty damn exciting Solar Activity ala Knowing!!!!! Check out this article in New Scientist
http://www.thegreatnetwork.com/forum/topics/space-storm-alert-90-se...
If that was not enough remote viewers are not painting the most rosie picture! You can listen to the audio on the homepage @ http://www.thegreatnetwork.com - down the bottom - under music!
And then there are those pesky web bots!
http://www.thegreatnetwork.com/video/the-web-bot-and-2012
Or nothing at all might happen! In a pole I saw - 50% of people think nothing is going to happen at all - so - what DO you think??
Come join the discussion!
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Permalink Reply by J. Banger on -
What may happen in 2012 is just speculation at this point from our perspectives. Whether the elites know something we don't for sure is also speculative, so all we can do is make theories based on the info-tainment we got to work with.
We seem to be looking ahead to an anticipation of the eternal now while the past hangs over us in the present. I think the End Of Times the Mayans predict in 2012 would be a serious relief from the confusing times we're in now. The facts we have to work with are limited but the solid pieces are the Mayan calendar and the galactic alignment event. Another fact is, something has been and is happening right now! This "new energy" is flooding inside of all of us and some are running with it, and some are running scared of it. Some of us have been more abused than others so the levels of awakenings won't all be the same consistency I'd imagine. This energy also seems to have been increasing more and more as we get closer to 2012, and the earth's spin and our own is increasing too.
Trust in Nature!! No matter what we do to this planet, nature makes a cure to it. Whatever will happen when we get near the galactic equator, I trust in Earth to shield us, protect us, and provide for us if we need it. We've passed by it countless times before, and Nibiru has passed by us countless times as well, the odds of a life ending event taking place in 2012 will, if anything, be man-made in design. We shouldn't fear what nature may bring in 2012, it's man's crazy ideas we gotta worry about.
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Permalink Reply by Roland on -
Hi Y'@ll,
well my take on 2012 is this: There will be a window opening as the sun burps when going into alignment with the galactic disc and be like a focal lens for galactic center or the central sun of your Galaxy. This enormous amount of energy will finalize Gaia's own ascension and the question at hand is how many people are ready to evolve with her into fourth & fifth density. How many can drop old beliefs and habits and rejoice in change and I am not talking change ala Obama, since he is just a smiling front, look who stands behind him and actully makes policy, the same old establishment. Okay sorry, back to 2012.
There are bold Agenda's of either side (governments/lightworkers/aliens) and some might even call it the last stand, since there are forces, namely the Zeta greys (ex slave race of the dracos, and some still are), factions at least, are trying to hold humanity back from their new abilities and ascension to keep them usable for their plans. There are also vast armies of lightworkers and I hope to see the warriors soon... going to places and prepare Earth habitats via geomancy (also called Feng Shui) ritual and forming of communities. Each the governments and the lightworkers have help from up there. The Pleiadians are mostly considered to be benevolent towards humankind and even talk of coming from here originally, they made their way to other stars long long time ago as they ascended. Others like Arcurians also have agendas but I won't go into judging or rating the different factions since I am still working on this puzzle. But be sure, that not everyone who tells you of your 12string DNA and tools to activate them gives you the full handbook or guide to make use of it.
So what are the new feats we will have in 4/5D? Siddhis they were called by Hindus, paranormal skills by westeners and many Indigo children spontaneously have them activated right from birth like telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation or anything you could imagine with your mind. We ALL have these skills right now, the question is to realize them and train them. In 4/5D you might just think upon a friend and bingbong your door bell rings, or you would imagine a piece of bread and whoops, there you are. Remember Jesus "You can do like I did and even greater!" The guy was not just kidding.
There are many different predictions of WHAT exactly will happen, BUT remember! prophecies CAN be changed. So even if the Hopi, the Bible and the Mayan's talk of SOME cataclysm you do NOT HAVE TO buy it. It is upon us to imagine a different somehow better world we want to live in and then the Doomsday mongerers can pack their bags. (Notably it was even on CNN: 2012 is Doomsday? right in your face) One thing I want to warn of is a possible fake alien contact which could bring forth a false Messiah as well, problem, reaction, solution. 'Ordo ab chao' as the moto goes amongst the freemasons would be the outcome, a one world government.
I also want to make this out: A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT does not have to be bad, it depends how decisions are made and by whom, by a dictator or a board of really caring people, we can determine the outcome by 'wishful thinking', prayer, visualization or whatever you see as appropriate. It is mainly the question of how many people will still be lulled and dulled by mass media lies and disinformation. If a critical mass is reached the evil empire must fall and this is why you're all touted to buy those new electronic gizmos following you even to the toilet so to weaken your aura, make you deceptible and of course to keep you in-formed after their liking! There are also stories of that HAARP might be used to dampen the global conciousness to keep us in that 3D prison.
Anyhow, it will be a very rough ride or a smooth transition and the ones who are not willing to live in unity conciousness will simply leave the game and go to a similar 3rd dimensional planet and repeat the class until they graduate. If it is 80% of the population as the worst case scenario is or only 20% is still changeable. Every day and every person counts! Writing this 1338 days before the end of time (as we know it)
Blessings to @ll, may you succeed in saving this place!
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Permalink Reply by Richard Abbot on -
I am really deeply skeptical about any End Times theory. I have a book called the Judgement of Jupiter which speaks about how 1982 would deliver a paradigm shift, then a load of notes about how Oct 1987 would be monumental, then 1999, then 2000 and then 2012. I don't recall any such predictions or warnings about 2001, which delivered the event the consequences of which we will live with all of this life (and maybe more).
In the very flaky UK New Age scene 2012 is the promise that everyone awaits, and that is enough of a reason to be questioning it.
I read The Invisible Landscape and investigated the Time Wave software and theory a while back and although it purports to prove that 2012 is the end of this cycle of time, hidden deep down in the nuts and bolts of the theory is a fundamental error that makes it is a self fulfilling prophecy. The end date is the assumption from which the rest of the theory spreads!! That don't make no sense!
I am open to persuasion, its always nice to know whats coming, but i have seen nothing in this dimension or others that persuades me that 2012 is any more significant than, well, today.
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Permalink Reply by 037 on -
Spiritual life is eternal, physical life is not. I believe everything comes to an end in order for a new begining to start in a new light. 2012 is the end of an era. Either way it's going to be an end of something and a begining of something else. In the end it's just a process that needs to happen, just like a cosmic ying-yang.
If you fear physical death, then you're not ready for the new begining. Water must be allowed to evaporate in order to become air which will in turn condensates and becomes water again, but this time the water is cleaner.
Just be ready and understand that it's all a process that's been happening for millions of years. We're not the first beings on this planet and we won't be the last either. Enjoy what you have and who you are 'cause these times are precious.
037
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Permalink Reply by J. Banger on
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The Purification. We are just a fractal from above and all around. What happens in the higher dimensions trickles down to ours. If we are in a conflict, so are the other fractals within the design. Follow the money to find the lies about 2012.
Good point about no warnings about 2001. There were a few people who spoke out and predicted these events, William Cooper and Alex Jones are the most notable. They didn't use magic mirrors or astrology for that, they used the facts and common sense. If we use the facts we have now about 2012, we can see most of it is all speculative and theories, the future isn't written yet, let's make sure we write it the way WE want it to be, not the way we are told it will be.
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Permalink Reply by Randall Hastings on -
In the traditional Native American spiritual community there is a great deal of discussion regarding 2012. We belive that it is a time of major changes in planetary consciousness. The Mexica people call this coming age - the Age of Flowers- as a time for the opening of the higher awareness potential within all human beings who will be incarnate on 12/21/2012. The Mayan elders say that the third eye and crown chakras of every human being will open up at that time..whether people like it or not! The Age of Flowers is the awakening of the higher lotus blossom of consciousness - the flowering of consciousness - evolving eventually into a new Golden Age. The research and work of John Major Jenkins is very credible in this area (esp. "Galactic Alignment) and the scientific/psychic/spiritual synthesis of knowledge done by David Wilcock on 2012, www.divinecosmos.com, is also incredibly interesting. The knowledge of the perennial Spiritual Science such as the Great Work will help prepare for the changes associated with 2012-2013. Mayan Spiritual Science is every bit as sophisticated as Hermetic and Eastern forms of knowledge.
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Permalink Reply by Roland on
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Aloha Y'@ll,
very interesting bits on the native American side. The opening of the higher chakras for everyone, even the non-adept is pretty much in con sense with what I heard to date. And correct as well, some go crazy with so much sense-ation and some will be enlightened and the Age of Science and spirituality can dawn. The attempts with HAARP are to suppress this and let us sleep a little longer in our 3D cocoon or simply ditch the ascension of the people in order to stay in control. Because this is THEIR fear, that a critical mass of people starts to question life as it is and the dependencies they have. And check how many we have!
1. in-SURE-ance - are you not sure of how your life goes or even scared?
2. energy - can't you use alternate sources or self produce what you need with solar, bio-gas from waste material, HHO, tapping the electron belt around Earth?
3. time - who told you to be where at what time?
4. space - why is every square meter either owned by governments or corporations and individuals HAVE to BUY from THEM? same goes for resources like ore etc.
5. moral values - who actually brought out all this Knigge bs?
6. education - the first brain washing instance, being smart means to COMPLY!
7. medical care - butchers and quacks are to me what the system has on offer! Treating the underlying bodies or repair DNA by music, intent, prayer is the way
One example:
Look, the whole stuff about HHO driven cars right now is being held back because the power mongers like the energy corporations would become obsolete at once. They now try to get you on the next grid of dependency with electric cars, you can even better predict how far you are allowed to go because the mileage is less if you choose the electric ride of the majors. Or as it was discussed to have bio-diesel, yeah why not grow food instead!?!
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Permalink Reply by Apocolypstick on -
What a fascinating topic of discussion!
2012 is one of my passions, I love it. I love reading about, learning about it, researching it! I have some fascinating books in my shelf on 2012.
Roland, I LOVE the stuff you have mentioned, very interesting.
May I suggest watching Ian Lungold's (RIP) seminars. You can find them on YouTube. An amazing man, and an amazing set of videos!
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Permalink Reply by Chris Labbate on -
Being born on Dec 21, 1976 I have studied everything I can on the topic. It seems if you are of a spiritual nature this is a time of great awakening and if you are of a more conspiracy type it is the bloody end. Hard to say what will be? If I have learned anything from the Great Work DVD series it would be this "careful what you believe, least these things come true." If we could get the tipping point (that is to say the majority) of the world to say "YES!" to positive change I think we will pull through it unscaved. The way I see it everyone knows about death but few people embrace it to rise above and truly live. Reply to this thread if you are interested in books or movies on the topic that I have seen and read and I can post them here.
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Permalink Reply by Frater LMHPCD on -
"It seems if you are of a spiritual nature this is a time of great awakening and if you are of a more conspiracy type it is the bloody end. "
I have gotten the same thing in many meditations on this subject. Some call it the great coming of the Christ with in for instance and if you dont turn your life over to Christ IE the spirit or higher self than you as a human will suffer many strifes if not even death. Our world is changing and those of the material world are in great turmoil right now.
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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on -
Hello Chris
I would love to know what information has been useful to you.
I also love the idea of a tipping point.
It seems we need so few people in reality to get there!!!
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Permalink Reply by J. Banger on
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I like to believe the positive aspects of 2012, I don't like to believe the conspiracy information, but I can't believe ignoring the darkside will make it go away. People who believe 2012 will be a time of nuclear war, doesn't necessarily mean that will manifest for them, that is a theory isn't it? The waking up will happen whether people like it or not, that I do believe, it's happening right now and the pineal gland is more active than ever I think. Our nervous systems need to expand appropriately in order to hold the higher vibrational energies, the average Joe's heart will explode if that system can't hold that frequency. That I also believe. I am hoping for all the best things for humanity, I have faith in 99% of humanity but that 1% has been doing a pretty good job of controlling and hoarding from the rest.
I am of the conspiracy & the spiritual ideals, I think we should look both ways before crossing the street, I don't think that means I will manifest & live thru depopulation because I'm concerned about it. To me that thinking kinda sounds like "look over here kids, nothing to see over there." I just can't trust in that really, but I trust in the division between Love & Hate and choosing a side now before 2012 gets here.
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