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SInce I am on the "what's the deal with" kick - (might be too much sugar - or too much moving - not sure) I am curious to know your thoughts on the Pleiadians? While I really like the message of Jays clips - why is it all white? Why are other messages from them so beautifully animated? Why wont they come on camera more clearly? Why won't they talk to me : )

I guess I just want to know more! Does anyone have any insight?

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Ohh - how does one get the book Honey?
Hehe, yes I don't like to say certain things on the internet, but in some cases I'm overcoming the paranoia, or pushing the limits of my comfort zone or whatever you want to call it by saying some things anyway. To hell with any agents that may be spying, they are humans doing a job, which is a job they believe to be right according to their current level of knowledge. It doesn't mean to say they are fixed in that position... ;)

I've got the Beamship DVD but that is all video recordings of the original videos and pictures so its like 2nd hand quality, its impossible to judge the quality of the material itself based on that, and the other videos I've got. But I downloaded some of the pictures yesterday, only now I'm looking through them, the quality is better but some are better than others. I'll post a few here.

I feel (some of) the information the public "can't handle" yet is contained in the Handbooks, the 2nd and 3rd volumes get even more interesting than the first. Personally I think its less to do with the stuff Hoagland and the likes talk about, or "physical" stuff, and more about thought and energy. People who can't handle it simply won't understand it, its like the information protects itself, or people protect themselves through not being able to understand it. I would need to get into my own philosophy of this whole thing to cover that properly, but basically its like the more you know, the more you are capable of knowing. If you don't know enough then its like trying to understand some foreign language, first you must learn and understand the more basic stuff. Certain things may cause fear in some people, but I don't think this is related to that kind of fear based thinking. Rather I see it as handing a box of matches to kids, so its in that kind of a way most people can't handle it. If things are upside down now then getting hold of certain information will do a lot more harm than good. So I think the whole thing protects itself through being unrecognizable to those people, I really don't think anything needs to be purposely witheld from anyone. They will withold understanding it from themselves. As for going out of your way to teach them, then its a different matter.

The Handbooks have nothing to do with Billy Meier as far as I know, that was received directly by George Green, only the "networking" and introductions were made through Billy. As I understand it other races or beings are also involved in creating the Handbooks, especially volume 3. As George says, the information is received from the "creational level", rather than someone orbiting earth in a ship. It comes from beyond the Pleiadeans' level of evolution, or physical beings shall we say. What I find interesting is parts that add to other information, as if it all comes together to make more sense, I'm looking for the similarities rather than differences etc. Personally I put the differences aside as interesting things to know or think about, but not really beneficial or essential. I try to think how both could be true at the same time, but the foundation of my understanding of it all is mainly based on the Handbooks. The universe literally being "thought" rather than "energy" opens a door to some deep areas of thinking. That's quite a powerful way to perceive it I think. It somehow aligns your (my) own process of being/becoming with the universal process - both "think". In this way we are thinking holographic fragments of the thought that itself thinks. If that even makes sense, I guess you know what I mean ;)

Anyway I'll have a look through these pictures and post some of the best ones, it may have to wait until tomorrow though because I would easily pass out if I laid down now. 3 hours sleep last night was not good :)
Yep I know what you're talking about exactly, and you always do a better job than me at explaining those concepts.

My paranoia has subsided over time, but I don't want to get in the front row groups of people on their radar so I try to keep with what's widely available to all online type of info.
I notice the contradictions because that always throws a red flag out to me, why would there be any need to alter the truth? And why would Billy Meier film beam ships flying and doing tricks for him, but not of them landing and stepping out for an interview?
THAT would've been impossible for a one armed man to pull off back in the 70s-80s to fake, CGI didn't exist in public hands and it would have been the ultimate proof for the masses in my opinion. It apparently wasn't their intention to definitively prove they were real to us, or maybe that footage was confiscated by authorities because it would've blown the lid off of all the hard work they've done over the years hoarding all this advanced technology and knowledge. I agree with you that the knowledge itself does protect itself, it's out of most people's concepts of perception. The hard evidence on the other hand is vital to end all this speculation and bring us into that new paradigm of being a truly free society, that would be snatched up faster than when the army always gets to the crashed UFO before the farmer can even get off his tractor. -Great Bill Cooper line.

I have not checked out the other volumes, is it a continuation of the New Paradigm series by George? I've read some of his other publication that he puts out but not any continuations of that book.

The Meier pictures are fantastic I think, and I've watched almost all the debunkers' videos of his photos with the trash can lid and the other funny business.
One of the Randy Winters copies of Meier's "dinosaur" photos was supposedly taken from a children's book published in the 50s or 60s I saw. If that's true and the picture is a fake, then there's probably more problems with Randy's information I'd say.

and what's with this one...

That's totally a 70s rain coat, I had similar. =)
Something is going on, whether it's a cover-up to disprove him to the public, or he really is a hoax artist, it doesn't have that pure feeling to it.

I believe in the Pleiadians, or some that are trying to imitate them. I'd need a blood sample to test to be sure of anything. The world was fooled about 9/11, I'm sure there's plenty of us capable of being fooled about first contacts.
Ok, the golden beam ship photo is an admitted photoshop fakery, but these are others I have found.



This one is suspicious in that the ship is perfectly in focus and clear, yet his car is out of focus and somewhat blurred.
The ship is supposedly moving (spinning) VERY fast, would this not be out of focus and blurred even more than a motionless car?

In my Pleiadian research I've come to understand that a benevolent species does not need to use artificial craft for this type of travel, as they would be using their energy bodies - their Merkabahs.
It's said that it's the malevolent species that use these artificial craft to travel because they are out of touch with their spirituality and do not utilize that energy. If you see an artificial craft it's supposed to be the bad guys. That does make sense from what I've read about several different off-world human information that's out there.
The disinformation is more popular than the supposed real occult sciences on the internet, so I guess until we see some indisputable evidence, we can only theorize about Billy Meier's information.
I ride with The Bull and Chiron, but I lay with the seven (nine) sisters.
That is how it was described back when the vernal equinox had Pisces in heliacle rising. Now it's more like Aries and Menkar.

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