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What is the deal with the Pleiadians?
SInce I am on the "what's the deal with" kick - (might be too much sugar - or too much moving - not sure) I am curious to know your thoughts on the Pleiadians? While I really like the message of Jays clips - why is it all white? Why are other messages from them so beautifully animated? Why wont they come on camera more clearly? Why won't they talk to me : )
I guess I just want to know more! Does anyone have any insight?
I guess I just want to know more! Does anyone have any insight?
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Permalink Reply by Simon Davies on -
Apparently, if they intend to stick around they refuse to have their pictures taken in case they are identified. And we can all imagine what would happen then, being the "advanced" species that we are, so they keep a distance for their own protection.
You can initiate contact with them (or "someone" at least) if you choose to and request it, but it needs to be done from a certain way of thinking... This is explained in the Handbooks I keep referring to, but essentially and basically, help will be given to those who are willing to help themselves. That meaning, if for example you are drowning, a helping hand will be extended if you ask, but you must choose to reach out and grab it, you won't simply be wrenched out of the water. Its a matter of personal responsibility as opposed to playing the victim.
I can't say whether it was real or a dream, but I've had some sort of a conversation with "someone" on 3 different occasions while I was sleeping through setting up the thought and intention before going to sleep, the first two were quite pleasant and I remember seeing a face, but I woke up feeling quite distrurbed with an unpleasant image the 3rd time and it hasn't happened since. I don't know or remember the subject or content of the conversations, just waking up with some awareness that I've just been talking with someone, I don't know who or what. And that's all I know about that.
But if you want information about the Pleiadeans, there's 24 hours worth of audio going over the content of Billy Meier's contact notes here...
http://www.thegreatnetwork.com/video/billy-meier-contact-notes-part
If you download the torrent, each side of a tape is around 11mb in size and 45 minutes in length, so if you download one at a time it shouldn't be too bad on 56k.
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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on -
Hello Simon
You know I have not seen this one yet...again ...DAIL UP - but there was another on here I really liked. Brunette fellow in a suit. I am sorry but I missed the handbook thing altogether - what books are those?
Why was the last encounter erky?
So you met Lara today - handful : )
p.s. Torrents and me are not good friends : ( but thanks for the idea.
So did you ask for them before you had the dream?
I LOVE her - she is a little fire cracker!
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Permalink Reply by Simon Davies on
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Yes I had an interesting conversation with Lara, it took some processing power to try and explain what I was trying to say and still keep it as brief as possible lol.
Yeah torrents aren't really that simple to get into, but there's loads of stuff available once you get into it. This might help, if not , what doesn't work?
http://www.slyck.com/bt.php
Who was the brunette fellow?
I only remember the last few moments before waking up, but the last encounter ended with some strange wrinkly looking face, and it involved thumbs being pushed into eyeballs. It didn't seem to be a human face but it was somewhat similar, I don't know what it was. I want to say the eyes looked more sort of "glowing" red than normal human eyes, but the more I think into it the more unsure I get. I sometimes feel myself attracted to the "dark side" of things out of fascination, but this was quite uncomfortable. The main thing I remember was thinking what the hell just happened lol.
I think it requires putting up some sort of "protection" rather than just becoming open to all forces, in case some of the more negative forces also try to influence. Maybe it was a quick lesson and demonstration or advice to be more specific and careful, or to become more focused with the intent. I don't feel it was intended to be malicious, maybe to take it more seriously and not enthusiastically and naively jump straight in assuming no harm could possibly come to me.
But I still don't know for sure if these experiences were "just a dream" like any other dream, it feels a bit different and I've never had the feeling of having just had a conversation with someone while dreaming before, but I can't overlook the possibility my mind is playing tricks because that's what I want to think. I will need to try again and see what happens.
"So did you ask for them before you had the dream?"
Ask for who or what? The Pleiadeans? I didn't think of them specifically because there are more evolved beings than them again also involved in the same "mission", the only language I can think of to describe it at the moment is "creational forces", I basically intended to initiate contact based on the thought of doing what I can to help with the mission, like a sincere request for assistance so I can assist.
In fact I sometimes think some sort of "assistance" happens more often than I realise... Sometimes when I'm trying to explain something to others I babble on, then suddenly (although "suddenly" isn't exactly right, I must first begin to wonder how to say it based on the fact I can see its going nowhere, it doesn't just happen during "normal conscious thinking" - I'm fully aware of purposely putting these words together to create sentences), some "esoteric" style simple phrase or "riddle" type thing pops into my awareness, covering in a couple of sentences what I totally fail to get across in a number of paragraphs. As opposed to the "normal conscious thinking", these phrases appear as complete phrases, not as words I've consciously chosen to put together. Its like if I'm having difficulty doing it consciously and acknowledge that fact then it seemingly appears by itself. I don't know what the source of those things are, the last time that happened was sunday or monday. I'm having difficulty trying to explain this now, but its not a "need to know" type situation, what I'm saying here isn't going to be of any practical benefit or use to anyone, its just a brief interpretation or description.
As a matter of fact, the principle of "allowance" has just come to me in a similar way. If I'm TRYING to think then its my conscious mind sort of forcing it, but if I loosen the control and "allow" the flow then it just appears. I think I've just gained a little understanding of it myself, nice :D
But anyway, I probably sound like a nutter lol. So without further ado, the source of my (conscious) understanding of the workings of the universe:
http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/catalog/book-reviews/19-handbook-for-th...
There are 4 volumes in total, 3 downloadable as pdf, and the 4th is a 32 page or so update on the situation. An audio version of volume 1 can also be downloaded there. The source of the information is claimed to be from the "creational level", its apparently not channeled but received through direct telepathic communication, and the publication deal was arranged through the Plejarans. Frankly it doesn't matter to me whether these claims are true or not because I think its excellent information. I don't want to offend anyone, but as far as I'm concerned the depth of this stuff makes "The Secret" completely obsolete for not even scratching the surface.
Oh and sorry for the huge reply again :D
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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on
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Honey I love you huge replies! I also love all the movies you are stocking up for me to watch : ) THANK YOU
I have had similar experiences in finding the right words. AT one point I managed a SINCERE psychic hotline. It was my job to keep hundreds of cranky psychics, astrologers, and taro readers in the right space to be of service. More times than I can tell you I would stand up and be AMAZED at the wisdom that came out of my mouth -It was certainly not the 24 year old me - that is for sure!!!!!
I also since the accident am experiencing the beauty of allowing. It is the "control" that gets us all tangled up for sure : )
I get what you mean about "the mission" - so lets see - and the need for protection I also understand. The Hathor have some amazing tools for that.
Thank you so much Honey : )
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Permalink Reply by Simon Davies on
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Hehe, its funny how the words just appear like that. This "control" thing is a funny business. The same principle applies to ("creating") everything, and in thinking of how to say it just now I realised giving up the need to control, from the perspective I saw it up until just now, in itself falls under the influence of control; Wanting to give up control is wanting to control it, like some endless cycle only on the opposite polarity of the same thing. I think in reality its the simplicity that makes it so hard to do. There's nothing easier than allowing it in reality, you "just do it", but in that respect its so subtle, based on my personal level of development at least, stepping aside and allowing it is hard to do. Its like you need to get "uninvolved", so its not the doing that's hard, its the NOT doing... I guess intending something and then allowing it is quite a skill.
On that note, the information in the Handbooks is very good for becoming aware of this principle. The way I understand it, based on the universal laws of Attraction, Intent, Allowance and Balance, is when the first two are taken care of (or thought), you must step aside and allow the universe to arrange itself accordingly, which leads to balance (of energies(?) or experience). Seeing as the universe is "thought that thinks", then you must allow thought to think, drawing upon all available (universal) knowledge rather than the limitations of the average thinking human mind. In other words the universe knows more ways to bring about the intended outcome than any human does (or just about any being within the universe for that matter), so the easiest, or perhaps the hardest thing you could possibly do is allow that process to think beyond your own capabilities.
But I'm going off the subject of Pleiadeans now, except for the fact its claimed that they were somewhat involved in getting this information out in the Handbooks.
As for the videos, as you can see I've posted some that deal with the subject of this discussion, there's another one I couldn't upload because of the file size limit so I've gotten hold of a program so I can split it into two files so I'll post that shortly. But certainly the most detailed information is in the Billy Meier Contact Notes videos/tapes, as I say there's 24 hours of audio there so there's plenty to think about, once you get proper internet up and running :D
I've never looked into the Hathor stuff, I will have to check that out, thanks :)
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Permalink Reply by Simon Davies on
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Permalink Reply by J. Banger on -
I couldn't articulate it better Simon, you are better with 3D speech than I am. You're right about how to go about contacting Pleiadians, and they are trying to stay covert and out of danger. They can't please all of the people all of the time, but if you're patient and opened up enough, they make themselves known.
I have a lot of reservations about some of the Billy Meier notes released to the public. My guts are telling me not to trust some information the Pleiadians supposedly wanted us to know about. Some things just don't make any sense at all, kind of like some of the magical Christian Bible stories.
B asic
I nstructions
B efore
L eaving
E arth
I can't remember them all, but the story of Venus being a former moon of an outer planet dragged in by the Great Destroyer comet seems a bit of a stretch for me to handle. I've been studying planetary science 30 years now both in school and for fun, and I'm aware of all the dead ends modern science releases to the public about what's really going on out there, but some of Billy's supposed unedited notes seem edited in my opinion and gut instincts. Billy has a unique dialect too that I'm sure could be used as an excuse for any "mistranslations" of his notes to English.
Something tells me that as soon as his original pictures and story went public, the good ole NWO got immediately involved and took control of the information. There's no way that the elite would just let the media have total access to Billy's undeniable proof before "they" checked it over first. We always get the blacked out versions of everything after they're done with it.
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Permalink Reply by Simon Davies on
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Yeah there's a lot of stuff I'm not too sure about... I started listening to the Contact Notes again a couple of days ago and I noticed when Billy goes off in a ship with someone, leaving the Great Spacer to go and watch WW3 get started on some other planet, when a missile goes off course and strays out to space suddenly there is another ship within visual range that takes care of the problem, and Billy sees how its solved. I might have missed something, I didn't rewind it so I don't know, but as I understand it they went out on a trip on their own, so I don't know where this other ship is meant to have come from. But then I think Billy couldn't be that stupid to make such an error, and the narrator Randolph Winters couldn't have simply missed it considering he's explaining it to us and has even discussed the whole thing with Billy himself.
Translation from German to English (or any other language) is one of the reasons for the tight control Billy wants over the information. On one hand it can seem like a money making fraud, but on the other he wants the information to come directly from him so he can be sure its all accurate. In a way its an attempt to avoid what has happened with the original knowledge that is now known as the bible. Apparently Billy no longer likes or trusts George Green for putting out an "unauthorised" version of the Talmud Of Jmmanuel, Billy wants the original German text printed along with the translation in the same book.
I'm sure there's a lot of purposely distorted information out there, but as far as the Contact Notes tapes go, unless Randolph Winters is "in on it", it should be pretty accurate or presented in its original form. If we are to believe what he says, he has spent time with Billy and had access to the books, discussed things with Billy and asked him questions etc so he's got a pretty good idea of what its all about, so the tapes should be pretty much what Billy intended to get out to the public.
But the FIGU web site can be used as a source of some information, and we can always join FIGU and go out to Switzerland ourselves to visit if we really want to know ;)
[edit] But personally I find that kind of stuff "interesting", its The Creation and spirituality stuff that I find fascinating, it adds to and is basically accurate according to other similar information, such as What The Bleep for example.
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Permalink Reply by Simon Davies on
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Although What The Bleep isn't really the best example... I suppose anything dealing with "the nature of reality" from a pleasantly "deep" perspective.
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Permalink Reply by J. Banger on
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When it comes to certain websites and videos online about the Pleiadians, my opinion is that it's not about the color of the box, pretty bows, and wrapping paper for the information, it's about the prize inside the box that matters. Although, effort is put into the wrapping paper too so that shouldn't go totally unnoticed, but it's mostly for show and to attract attention. Knowing when I am hearing the least edited Pleiadian information resonates imside on a level similar to recognition of a certain accent from someone who grew up in your area when your on the other side of the planet. Like hearing a Boston accent from a person while you're visiting Egypt, instant recognition and comfort zone feeling like a warm blanket from home. I'm from outside Boston so that's the example that works for me.
I'm sure Simon could explain it better than that, I'm not very good at all the little details so much as metaphoric speaking to explain it simply.
Why won't they talk to me : )
-Maybe they are already, maybe they don't do it in the preconceived formats we expect. =)
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Permalink Reply by Simon Davies on
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"Why won't they talk to me : )
-Maybe they are already, maybe they don't do it in the preconceived formats we expect. =)"
Yes, according to the information in the Contact Notes tapes, they are transmitting information to a few thousand people on the planet, but as to not interfere with "freewill" it appears as your own thoughts and ideas, so you can choose to act or not as if they are any other normal thought.
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Permalink Reply by J. Banger on
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I can personally confirm that is true. I don't want to publicly write too much about it online just in case it might bring me a knock or two on my door late at night by folks in uniform.
Randy Winters speaks well publicly and does a good job putting out the Meier information, but.... there's something about him I don't completely trust. His pictures he presents online that he took with his camera from Billy's collection seems to be dark and inconclusive, like most of the Meier evidence. I would think the Pleiadians would have provided the world with some undeniable concrete unquestionable proof for Billy to present, yet there are only the photos and unknown metals he claims are from them. The photos were proven to be genuine, and the metals are of unknown elements and origins, so they say, yet the public isn't satisfied with such things for some reason. Where are the videos of them landing and Simmiase (sp?) walking out of the craft, or an interview with her perhaps? Was all the good evidence confiscated right away? I would have to say if the Meier case is for real, then the best stuff is long gone and hidden away.
I've heard George Green and Randy both mention that there are things the public could not handle yet and they are not talking about that stuff right now, Hoagland also says the same but he's mostly referring to our moon, it's artificial, built as a monitoring station of sorts. A real Death Star.
I've received George's book thru the mail, Handbook For The New Paradigm, was that one unauthorized? It's very logical and gives good information, I definitely recommend it to anyone, it's absolutely free George pays all the shipping costs too. That really helps me when it comes to believing someone's credibility. I can get thru most of it without hitting the brakes like I do with the Meier notes. Green's book is claimed to be straight from the Pleiadians, after reading it I can say that it's more believable than Meier's notes, but also contradicts each other at some points. There is definitely multiple sources of Pleiadian information out there that contradicts the other, so tampering is going on with it all. Follow the money!
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