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29/11/1431 Experience of a Group Viewing Of An Eckankar Talk

Reading the Eckankar books is quite the experience in itself! It is much like reading a combination of fantasy, rhetoric, and theology. Yet, it is interesting in itself. That being said, the experience of listening to the audio programs "HU: A Love Song to God" and "Shariyat Ki Sugmad Book 1" was better. The entertainment of Eckankar is greater in their films. Likewise, I've found that joining a local gathering of Eckist to chant HU to be a deeper set of experiences. What I did not expect is that seeing the video from the October 22-24 World Wide Seminar as a group would be even more intense.

I arrived at the place of meeting at 9:58 the Sunday morning of November 7, 2010. Two minutes later we called to attention and joined in saying Hu for about thirty seconds, a tenth of the usual. Sri Harold Klemp was in a lighter blue suit like he usually is for his preaching. What day of the World Wide Eckankar Seminar, it was unknown to me. However, the subject was the Year of the Teacher. Their year always starts on October 22, a month past the Autumnal Equinox. The talk was entitled, "Teacher and Student." I sat comfortably to skry towards the screen. Almost all of the Eckankar films are good for such gazing. They are also structured in a way fitting for the type of people who would memorize the speeches of their spiritual leaders. He acknowledged that he may not fit what people would expect of a prophet or even a spiritual leader, except in the fact he has a lot of aimless talk. I do so agree. He went on to talk of the inteaction with the archbishop like people in his hierarchy, called R.I.S.A.s. Then came the main part of the talk. These were three stories, as this triple story telling is common place with this so-called Mahanta (Way Showing). One of these stories was of a person he gave a guise pronounced as Baheerah, which is a camel superstition mentioned in Al Qooraan 5.103. This name may be a fitting to name a character mentioned on the first day of Samhain, but a camel who is dedicated for the worship of other then God while people are forbidden to use its milk didn't have to do with the story. This was a mention of an African man who as a child experienced the HU as being the sound behind all other sound he knew. The variation was probably the `Arabic pronoun for it, which is hoo or formally Hoow. Of all the claims of Eckankar, the idea of the possibility for the common man to experience the presence of God anywhere rings most true. For this and other such reasons, I will continue to be a part of this group as long as can express a certain amount of ideas in their meetings and am not pressured to do things like picture their real and imagined leaders during prayer. The talk ended about 10:58 A.M. with me still feeling like I was floating with electrolysis gel all around me.

Like usual, I won't bother you with the details of the psychedelics of my experience. I will say the flows of feeling and sight lasted for most of the time. Several varieties of phosphenes abounded, as well. Shortly into the speech, a shadowy, but colorful Jinn appeared with an other worldly presence around the framed photo of Harold Klemp that was place to the right of the computer screen we viewed the film on. There it remained in a space of about two feet across until atleast 10:25 A.M. when I no longer could testify of its presence. Before the table the computer between two frames was placed on came another mighty presence. This fire being felt like a crowd as it walked eastward from the spot of its appearance several feet. This happened five times in the aforementioned time slot, but starting a little later. Whether it was the same being of average human height or a different one each time, I could not tell. This repeated after 10:30 P.S.T. in much the same manner eight times. Then, I felt that days greatest presence of a fallen angel (as Jinn, fallen angel, and fire being are the same category of creation) that day. It was behind me by atleast ten feet each time. I looked and saw nothing more than the psychedelics that filled the rest of the room. This happened thrice. As the talk grew towards a close, I saw an aasoora behind and against this alleged Eck Master in dark blue of the Devas realm (Devas is Avestan for the Saamskreeta aassoora, which is the same as fire beings.). It's form was taller in the neck and head region in the shape like a stubby pencil. It's form also protruded at the shoulders as taller and sharper shoulders. I don't know if it was just a being that decided to hang out in the room or if there was that phenomenon at the conference in Minneapolis, Minnesota. This remained till the end of the video where a joke was made by Harold. During this period of atleast ten minutes, something similar happened to what happened before the table. This time in the same spot, in the same space, I felt the same thing happen thirteen times without seeing it. Likewise, I could not tell if is was the same being as the other thirteen times or of it was twenty-six different beings.

Tags: Eckankar, TV, aasura, devas, eck, gaze, jinn, skry, spirit

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Permalink Reply by Jaefar S.A.B.N.W. on November 15, 2010 at 11:45pm

ECKANKAR: Collected Works by Paul Twichell speaks of a Venusian race called Eshwar Khanewale or God-Eaters. He tells how these
attach themselves to the Living Eck Master and "they absorbe cosmic energies instead of food." What is said about this class of Jinn is that they are as spiritual vampires feeding upon those who practice or believe in the misassociation with god found in Eckankar.

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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on April 3, 2011 at 5:56am

Do you often / always see these creatures J?

Why do you think they were there?

Why the movement?

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Permalink Reply by Jaefar S.A.B.N.W. on April 3, 2011 at 8:05pm

How often varies. The past two years, it has been much less so. These happenings happen more often during the more sacred times of the year, particularly the last ten nights of Ramadaan. Based on recent reviews of diaries, I seem to have more metaphysical experiences when there are people who share being affected by my sharing them. Awareness of my own soul(s) or spirit(s) occurs monthly or even daily. I gain a distinct awareness of another metaphysical being as much as an average of twice a month. Since the day mentioned, here, nothing of that sort has been perceived as more than a presence or perhaps through some psychedelic event witnessed. Such is not neccessarily linked to any particular worship or purification process according to my memory or record. Some events have seen a more common occurence.

They noticed something occur and were attracted to it. My worship is only for God. I don't invoke or evoke (by default the present are, but one probably knows what I mean) others. There is no need. I think the Eshwar Khanewale may be what the Hopi prophesy of as much as two thousand years ago said about the Blue Katchina coming the generation before the alignment of 2012. I may not agree with the idea of feeding them, but I am not afraid to witness what can occur with certain groups. The laws of attraction and repulsion influence all beings. Some intent to be present for a reason outside that, though.

If any interpretation can be derived. Their current leader has the inner name of Wah Z or just plain z. Z is the twenty sixth english letter. They may have been refering to him some how. The first Sunday of a month in 2006, some entity/entities spoke a warning of how he was not what I think as an image of Harold Klemp's head was thrown out of a yellow box that was only there for a minute.