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Permalink Reply by Jaefar S.A.B.N.W. on May 19, 2009 at 11:35pm

In my opinion The Science of the Secret was a much better film then Abraham-The Secret Behind The Secrets with Ester & Jerry Hicks. It contained all the issues of value and was more concise.

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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on May 20, 2009 at 2:14am

Gosh Honey
THANK YOU
Chance and I both feel it is so unfinished.
But thanks so much : )

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Permalink Reply by Jaefar S.A.B.N.W. on May 21, 2009 at 3:36am

I see the whole series as the standard 5 tier of self realization. What I see as not delved into in the series is the whole realization of the metaphysical realm other then one's own soul or spirit. The hard thing about generating mass apeal about such things is there is such a variety of belief. The mastery of one's body, mind, emotions, soul, and spirit is hard enough. Using those achievements to result in interaction with Fire Beings (Fallen Angels/Elementals), Light Beings (Unfallen Angels/Kingly Beings/Shining Ones), and The Realm of Theophany is even harder. How to do that make ones thought, words, and actions into trascendential ones is harder to find agreement. Any particular system of demonic evocation or angelic invocation, is not as widely adhered to. One could in theory do a show on those four realms (those centered on in The Great Work series and the three other worlds using the Four levels of creation mythology) as occupying the same space, inward and outwards as far as there is interacting. The interaction between the four can be explained in a way to neither insult 4 billion polytheists or the 1.7 or so billion monotheists, nor the deists for that matter. Awefully difficult to render it as understandable to most, though.

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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on May 21, 2009 at 4:45am

What a fantastic idea. Thats a show I would LOVE to watch!
I will have Chance look at this too - but you are correct and we as producers are so far from mastery of the mundane..yet : )
Where do you live Honey
You have SUCH insight and you are a poet as well -you amaze me : )

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Permalink Reply by Nathan 32° on May 21, 2009 at 1:07pm

If you consider what these entities are you can see that realization of one's soul or spirit would lead to a better understanding of apparently external metaphysical entities than any mythology or specific system. They are not winged people flying around some place waiting for someone to call on them. They do not exist in a linear time-line like our physical bodies do. They are only as 'real' as we allow them to be. They are nothing more than concentrated and coagulated energy generated by collective thought process and/or focused intention. The more people who worship or believe in a given entity the more powerful and 'real' it becomes.The more focused the Magician the more powerful and 'real' it becomes. They exist in the soul. Like the five elements, they are each an aspect of the soul and human nature. Each can also be described by the five elements so a general understanding of the elements would give one a basic understanding of all entities. They can be called upon though any number of ritual summoning styles. The effect is the same. By calling a specific entity the Magician is able to concentrate and thereby manifest that aspect of the self/soul/god externally or internally. For ease of communication, and possibly so we can comprehend them, we have always given them names and usually some form or other. Like everything else humans feel better when they are put in boxes and categorized. All the apparently external metaphysics can be found within' just as the whole universe fits neatly inside your head.

I guess my point is that with all of the different mythological and invocation/evocation systems the goal is the same as the goal presented in the great work. To build God's temple, perfection of the self, to achieve one's True Will etc. I consider the elements to be the first fully conceivable categorization of existence below God. The cornerstones of knowledge which leads to a better understanding of God and the true self. Going further would almost assuredly lead to confusion, frustration, and disagreement, as you said. The Elements are ancient science. Angels, demons, and the like are faith or religion.

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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on May 21, 2009 at 5:55pm

You know what - that we my belief too until very recently
I am reading right now the Secret History of the World by... I will tell you later when i can grab it
He proposes a very different "mystery school ' version of human evolution that includes stages where we were primarily "vegetable" in nature, ie. more organic, more connected, the root of our nervous system in fact belongs to that period he suggest, it is essentially the time described before the fall - us in the garden of eden. And part of his story includes a time where the material was not so dense, and gods and angels etc walked the earth in actuality, demi gods were created etc.

It is a really interesting perspective, particularly the evolution of consciousness / pineal as it pertains to how we think, feel and view our connection, or lack their of with the divine.

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Permalink Reply by Sabrina Luna on May 22, 2009 at 2:20pm

Dear Friends of The Great Work,

If you haven't got the DVD collection, then I highly recommend you do! Chance & Vanese have put together a impressive group of guests and eye-catching visuals to engage your mind and feed your soul! Bon Appetite! ;)

Many Blessings,
Sabrina )O(

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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on May 22, 2009 at 7:50pm

You are an ANGEL Honey : )

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