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Admittedly I gave Crop Circles no attention because of the phenomenom of the hoaxing done by Davy and Dougy, whom are of little importance in this discussion. However, they are in a sense responsible for my long period before I would look at them again.

I have just purchase some videos on Crop Circles [CROP CIRCLE: Crossovers from another dimension (3 disc)] and the discussions was interesting because of the sizes and mathematical precision in the production of these large geometric image. Now of course I had my doubt beyond Davy and Dougy because I did not believe that nature produced such precision mathematical images: i.e. the perfect circle is said to be an abstract idea for the perfect circle can not be produced in the world. However, the evidence produced in these videos and the subsequent discussions would clearly indicate otherwise.

What came at me predominantly from out of these films is that most of the geometric patterns are from the pi and phi categories along with the squaring of the circle and fractal geometry, which this latter is said can not be reproduced outside the computer terminal. I know that this last is wrong because all life forms on earth are of a fractal geometric nature. Now from just what I have discussed so far two large beliefs concerning mathematics has been debunked. That is a cause for great concern. Not because they infer anything frightening in anyway but rather the old unknown prejudices are dissipating like the mist of dew in the morning.

Members of the Great Network that have read my posts knows of my penchant for analyzing the Sacred Scriptures from a mathematical perspective. All of these items that I mentioned that flooded my consciousness in viewing the above mention videos can be found in the first chapter of Genesis, which of course now leads me to wonder where some of the mathematics that is coded to the Torah came from. We know that from the Monad comes the main mathematical sets but I have to admit that the formulas for pi and phi is not readily seen in the Universal Mathematical Matrix: The Primum Mobile. Yes, these above arithmetical sets can be interpreted from the matrix through the implementation of hair-splitting logic and I am well aware of this notion but the actual down to earth formulas do not come from the matrix itself that I am aware of. They must be worked out and something from outside the matrix must aid in the interpretation thereof otherwise it would not be science but a one time phenomenom, which can cannot be reproduce by another: which is a death knell to science.

Then it dawned on me that 99% or more of all the genuine Crop Circles are created in the midst of unharvested crops. Now it is said that genuine crop circles have been created in snow fields and deserts sand fields but they for the most part are abberant. Yet, Crop Circles in the midst of unharvested crops fields have been reported for thousands of years, which demonstrates that it is not a recent phenomenom. That is all to the good because that completely debunks davy and dougy. Those created in deserts and snow fields are probably on energy sites that only crop circles can appear. Otherwise, the world would be inundated with crop circles ad infinitum. We would have solved these problems long ago.

However you look at it, unharvested crop fields are ongoing laboritories for nature's [The Great Goddess] equation for phi. A great deal of phi energy has to be focus in fields of crops, where crop circles are discovered, in order for nature to produce the seasonal crop. And since phi is known to create pentagrams in the stellar universe: hence the journey of Venus over an eight year period, then we can assume that this same energy creating pattern is let loose in crop fields.

Consider that the formular for phi is infinite [consider that the crop circles are not duplicating themselves] and that each set along the Fibonocci sequence can produce different designs with different crops: i.e. wheat, barley, corn, peas, etc. This theory may well be the answer as to why crop circles appear. Research should be done in this area of thought. It may also be the reason that these formulas find themselves in the esoteric science of the sacred scriptures: the Great Goddess. It is obvious that the transcendent: God is reaching out to humanity from several venues including the Kundalini, Universal mathematical Matrix and the Crop Cirles and other avenues of thought. Otherwise, why would all these mathematical venues find themselves reincoded into the text of the sacred scriptures??? All of these venues were thought to be the word of God by the ancients and we study the ancients for knowledge of the beginnings.

WHAT DO YOU THINK??

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Definitely not drunk farmers with boards and rope. The face of the grey alien is laid out with a message in binary code for mankind .

The decoding of the disc:-

BEWARE THE BEARERS OF
FALSE GIFTS AND THEIR
BROKEN PROMISES.
MUCH PAIN,
BUT STILL TIME.
BELIEVE THERE IS
GOOD OUT THERE
WE OPPOSE DECEPTION.
Michael:

Yes, I have been convinced after watching several videos that the crop circles are some kind of message from Mother Earth: Great Goddess. Last night I had a dream after watching some of these videos and interviews with investigators and though the dream did not have anything to do with Crop Circles I awoke with the overall impression that dreams like Crop Circles are mandalas. Are Crop Circles inherently dreams from the greater collective of the area in which they appear? I don't have answers but I will look further into the matter as time goes on.

Presently I have just ordered from England three dvd videos on crop circles and with membership to their site and the videos I have it is a start. I have to buy some books on the subject because I am beginning to feel that somehow this material may well have been esoterically coded into the world literature. I can not argue why they would not be incorporated into the esoteric genre. If I have an informed understanding of them I should recognized them if I come across them esoterically in the text of the sacred scriptures.

I may well have come across them already. I can demonstrate three mandala motifs: Kundalini, Zodiac's, 12-signs, The Trinity in the same space state: first four chapters of Genesis. I am working on a book: TRANSUBSTANCIATION: The Secret & Mysteries of the Eucharist to illustrate this esoterically but it will take a few more years to complete. There is a great deal of work to do for the purpose of demonstrable evidence. The salient point of the work is that each of these mandala motif literally take up the exspance of the first four chapters of Genesis. If is as if I am looking at layers of the texts not knowing which came first. This latter may well be inherent in the esoteric science because it is of little consequence. However, if I had my guessing cap on I would say 1) The Trinity, 2) The Zodiac's 12-signs and 3)The Kundalini. Of course this is an informed guess seeing that the scriptures is holographic and I have come across mini versons of these motifs in the first chapter of Genesis.
How do u know this to be "true" Dev? I know a lot of "theories" about how crop circles are formed, but I can't definitively sign on to any one specific yet.
I have seen many videos of glowing orbs moving around fields and watched crop circles form just underneath them. The theory of UFO's forming these was one I felt drawn towards, but most videos these days can be forged so I still can't settle on one belief.

Other theories suggest man made formations by use of satellite technology, some say it's radiation forming patterns coming from other stars. Until "the source" of these formations comes forward publicly or to any of us personally, we have no choice but to speculate and discuss the most likely origins of these crop circles.
Devahshanti said:
Theories are worthless. We employ Esoteric Sciences in order to arrive at the facts. Again:
Anyone with an Awakened Consciousness can attend these meetings & verify all of this for themselves.

There are many things that can & can't be verified as fact. We are one conscious mind, but each vessel is an individual version of the source consciousness experiencing individual aspects of reality. "I" is "we", but we are divided up into 7 billion unique individual pieces of the whole, so using the term "I" is appropriate considering the situation we are in here. Within those individual pieces, there are forces at work trying to deceive with false information. It is critical to remain objective and not solidify one single belief system, as the fractal paradigm shifts and changes often.
Michael:

I have just watched an interview with a scientist studying the Crop Circles and she points out that that two to four oclock in the morning the ionosphere is the weakest and this is the hour most of the patterns appear. I happen to have several films on the H.A.A.R.P. installation in Alaska and it is said that there are several around the world. What the governments are doing in concert is pushing the envelope of the atmosphere out from 40-miles to 60-miles by drenching the ionosphere with billions of watts of electricity: hence the crazy weather we have been having of late. Tesla said that he could split the world in half if he could harness that energy to point to the earth rather then away from it. It was known that some of this energy did come back down to earth but the majority goes into outer space.

The question is could this recent drenching of the ionosphere with billions of electrical watts have given the Crop Circle mechanism an increased power: hence the reason for the more sophisticated nature of the Crop Circles??

Again look at the patterns in snowflakes, which comes from the higher atmosphere. Could the Crop Circles be enlarged variations of snowflake patterns????

If you have listened to the beginnings of the Gulf War with Irag you will have heard how much of their infrastructure was wiped out do to electriical problems. This is directly related to H.A.A.R.P.'s purpose for existing: it is a military weapon that can be pointed at any city or location on earth. The computer circuitry was melted in many of these installations and the reason the infrastructure could not be brought back online quickly.

Now I am not saying that the military is solely responsible for all the Crop Circle patterns, however, the one that J. Banger produces below I do believe that is a military hoax, (it is not done in spirals like other crop circles are is one of the problems and another is that there are way too many straight lines creating the image of the alien) because I believe that they are trying to debunk the Crop Circle phenomenom or make a joke out of it. Yes, I do believe that the military has found a way to reproduce these crop circle patterns: Remember that H.A.A.R.P. has been out there for many of years and their scientists have been looking at these problems a lot longer, and with more sophisticated resources, then the average man or woman on prigrim to these sites. They can not solely debunk the Crop Circle phenomenom, because of the history that goes back centuries concerning them, but they can throw a few monkey wrenches into the mix. I believe that this interference may be do to the complexities of the new patterns, which is solely do to their interference with the ionosphere. The answer is right in front of us and they do not want that answer to become conscious. Hence patterns such as you see below, in J. Banger's post, will make people think there is another outer intelligence at work confusing the greater issues involved.

Michael R Jensen ND said:
William, I have several crop cicle vids and have noticed that over the years the intracy of the patterns is growing exponentially. I believe that there are messages in these patterns, a language that we have not yet uinderstood.
As for faking them..well how? I can not believe for an instant that some one could construct the circle below in the dark, in the time frame, with no noise, not being seen by the many circle spotters camped about the hills.

Devahshanti:

Thank you for your link. I will download script and audio of each of the sacraments. Though I have a large list on the sacrement: especially the Eucharist more are welcome in my quest to finsih my work.

Devahshanti said:
Greetings William,

Here's some study material that you might find useful in the writing of your book; it's sounds quite amazing, can't wait till it's done!: http://gnosticradio.org/lecture-directory/courses/sacraments-of-the...

Lecture 5 covers the topic of the Eucharist... Enjoy!

In Love, As Love,
~Devahshanti
Dev...

"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." ~Oscar Wilde
Here's that video of the orbs creating crop circles...

This is a video discussing the "alien" crop circles of significance...

I don't know who or what creates all or some of the crop formations, it very well could be both natural phenomenon, and military technology for some of the current images.
You're right MJ, maybe they'll suggest mating fireflies too.... the female was playing hard to get. =)
I showed a friend some of the night vision/ infra-red UFO videos and after watching them barely once, writes them off as "bottle rockets" and "butterflies" very definitively.

I can only imagine what the left brainers have to say about this one...

I am at a loss for a mainstream explanation for this one, besides the obvious reasonable explanation... inter-dimensional McDonald's competitors.
This image of the alien with the disc may well be an act of treason by some General in the HAARP installation. Meaning that he has given society at large secret technology that the no one is suppose to have. He has violated national security. It will be interesting to see if the Homeland Security will hunt that dog down.

Consider the message very carefully. It is warning us of another baring gifts, similar or paraphase of the "beware of Greeks bearing gifts". So we are led to believe that one alien friend is warning us against another alien group giving us gifts. If this is not a military message trying to foster the eternal bogey man: I'll eat my hat. The terrorist threat has discipated to nonexistence and the military is looking around for that eternal bogey man they so desperately need in order to perpetuate their existence or justify their existence. If they can get the wide spread consciousness of humanity thinking there is possible invasion by an outer space alien at any moment that could allow for the excallation of the war machine.

People in the military often don't look at the long picture when they plant evidence or they fail to followup on the continuity of evidence. There was literally nothing leading up to that message or those pictures of human or alien faces in the crop circles. In other words there was no preliminary warning that such graphs were possible. Previously all crop circles were of those that nature would produce.




J. Banger said:
Here's that video of the orbs creating crop circles...

This is a video discussing the "alien" crop circles of significance...

I don't know who or what creates all or some of the crop formations, it very well could be both natural phenomenon, and military technology for some of the current images.
Michael:

This kind of evidence kind of proove my hypothesis concerning nature creating the crop circle similar to the snowflakes. Thank you for adding these examples to the discussion.

Michael R Jensen ND said:
William, this is for your amusement, You mentioned snowflakes and I remembered that there was some mention of them in one of my " orders" publications. I hope you find it interesting. If the image does not upload clealy I will enlarge it. heres hoping

Back in 1972 as I was going through Alpine, Texas there were stories of a ball of light that hung over the highway and anybody trying to get near it it would fly some distance away and when the cost was clear it would return to the same spot over the highway. I though I would add that memory to the mix.

Michael R Jensen ND said:
Hey JB I bet someone will say they arent orbs just some stoned hippies twirling fire sticks( lol)
I personally believe these are communications from our "space brothers" hanging out up there in the great 4D, this is a way to communicate without having to physically appear and freak us out so much we all end up traummatized and start shooting at them ( damn yanks...lol )

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