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Concensus on "2012"
Ok I have a topic I would like to discuss but before I can get to it I need to take a temperature on where we all stand re "2012" if you will...or whatever you want to call what we seem to be going through and heading towards, so would you mind please catching me up as to where your heads are on this topic?
Blessings to you!
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Permalink Reply by Cosmic Claire on -
I have no idea whether there will be some eye opening event next year which will change everything, I am certainly with those who believe that there is no script and that we are making it up as we go along.
However it does seem to be the case that the world is entering some kind of nexus, well a crisis really, on all levels, environmental, ecological, spiritual, economic, financial, you name it.
I don't think this is just something that will go away without dealing with it on some fundamental level.
I'm also reminded of Robert Anton Wilson's timeline prediction from Illuminatus way back in the late seventies, about how the rate of change and innovation was speeding up to a projected asymptote (infinite rate of change) which would peak between 2012 and 2016. Well, he seems to have something there...
I've just reread Ken Carey's 'Starseed Transmission' in which a consciousness which describes itself as our collective mind or the relation between infinite mind and our local beings states that a global change in perception of ourselves will take place around this time. Actually it says 2011, so well, we're here, and is it happening? Hard to say for the rest of the world, but certainly some of those I am connected to feel that we are climbing some incredibly steep slope and don't know where it is going to end... a bit like an asymptote.
ETs, angelic beings, Pleiadians, Illuminati, world conspiracy by the reptilians etc... who knows what is really happening, but there does seem to be a struggle for the hearts and minds of everyone on the planet, and there is a lot of deception going on, we all know that. Lies are no basis of a foundation for the future so when the proverbial hits the spinning rotor only that which is built on truth will have a chance of surviving. I guess a lot of good stuff might go down with the ship too... but I think that those of us who believe in something higher feel that even if we are spun into oblivion physically something of value will survive. For myself, I can't believe that all this trouble and effort that has gone into making this beautiful planet of ours will be sacrificed or allowed to go down the tube.
But it's sure seeming like a close call at the moment! Then on the other hand, what good story doesn't have some narrow squeaks and a last minute resolution.... Here's to it! Sure is the most intense and conflicted time that the world has seen for a very long time....
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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on -
@ Claire...could not have said it better myself!!!! Probably would not have had the patience but that you : )))) OK..Are we all here?
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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on
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Very funny Elchima : )
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Permalink Reply by EL*CHI*MA on -
"We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun. This is the time in-between, the time of transition.As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes. All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the simple, spiral mathematics of the Mayan calendars.
"It will change," Mr. Barrios observes. "Everything will change." He said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from — and signified by — the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy.
At sunrise on December 21, 2012 — for the first time in 26,000 years — the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic, describing in the sky a great cross of stars and planets. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life — a tree remembered in all the world’s spiritual traditions.
Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration. This process has already begun, Mr. Barrios suggested. "Change is accelerating now, and it will continue to accelerate."
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Permalink Reply by J. Banger on -
George Lucas and Steven Spielberg seem to think life as we know it is going to end in 2012...
http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/movies/2011/01/18/16927446-...
...I say the sooner the better!
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Permalink Reply by Vanese Va Voom on
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@Jay... say or want..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72dgIHE1Icw&feature=player_embed... through the first minute..
@Elchima...nice but who is Mr Barrio
@Khem....I agree with this, but at the same time things are happening...between the escalation of control and the awakening...there is a nexus approaching...
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Permalink Reply by EL*CHI*MA on
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http://www.redrat.net/thoughts/prophets/index.htmVanese, here is an excellent access site to Mr. barrios.
Daniel, "Tthe spirit of the universe can turn either direction on you."? The Spirit of the universe is a benign spirit, it has only one agenda, LOVE, Because love is such a foreign concept to humanity, often confused with sex, we have difficulty defining or finding the true nature of " the spirit of the universe" . The apparent "turning in either direction" only arises through choices we make and their consequences. Man has ever blamed his creator for the self inflicted flaws he finds as an inheritance from his forebears and their self inflicted ignorance arrogance and pride.
Vanese Mc Neill said:@Jay... say or want..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72dgIHE1Icw&feature=player_embed... through the first minute..
@Elchima...nice but who is Mr Barrio
@Khem....I agree with this, but at the same time things are happening...between the escalation of control and the awakening...there is a nexus approaching...
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Permalink Reply by J. Banger on
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I want our current way of life (suppression) to end soon and I want the next phase or era of our civilization to begin in the direction of freedom and positivity to all living creatures... I believe it's already begun and the old system has to break down and decay. I hope for the best but anticipate the worst just in case, America is going to get hammered, already is in many ways, I struggle to find untainted food and water and air it seems.... this way of life needs to end here before it infects every nation.
2012 is going to bring about what the elite have already paid for. They didn't spend all that money and put all that effort into such weaponry just for show.
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Permalink Reply by J. Banger on
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The top elite outer space gang clubs do have the balls to carry it out, it's those who follow those orders who won't comply when it really matters. THEY can give all the orders to destroy they want, free will to be a psychopath is every man's rite and that has been the norm in societies for 1000s of years, I just see it getting worse before it can get better. In the final hour, people do change for the better... even Darth Vader changed sides at the very last second before Luke was about to die. It usually takes a major jarring to finally come around for the majority it seems... the Sodium Fluoride and ridiculous medicating of minds isn't helping them hear any alarm clocks unfortunately.
Daniel L said:
Quite simply you need to begin meditating that the have neither the balls nor the inclination for destruction, this is what I mean by re-writing the narrative in the collective unconscious. You have to see them doing the right thing in your imagination so clearly that if forces them to see it in their sub-conscious.
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Permalink Reply by Cosmic Claire on
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Or perhaps another way of saying this is that we have to outbelieve the darksters?
For me one of the real tests is simply to keep on believing that there is a transformation possible, that despite all the darkness that light will eventually come, that there will be a dawn. It's like, so many people just laugh at the idea of some spiritual awakening but what else is there?
There is a line about 'enduring steadfast to the end' I looked up and got these referencesMat 24:13; 10:22; Mark 13:13
I think this is what it is really all about. Enduring, the formation of the Diamond Body under unimaginable stress and pressure so that you manifest the perfect crystalline soul structure which can survive anything. Dur means hard. It survives because it is stronger than the thing which tries to destroy it, it has more Truth. Eckhart Tolle talks about crystals being like spiritualised minerals. Also diamonds are often thought to have their own light, as well as being perfectly transparent to light
Not giving in to the fear, the darkness, even though it is all around and all that there seems to be. There simply has to be something better, I cannot believe that what we see now is all that the Universe has for us, it is lies and illusion and we are being told that it is all that we can hope for. No tyranny can endure for ever. Look at the Third Reich, for a decade it looked like no-one could stand in its way, it conquered, it convinced, it even seemed to win. But two years more? all that was left was a smoking ruin.
Hang in there and know your truth.
Daniel L said:Quite simply you need to begin meditating that the have neither the balls nor the inclination for destruction, this is what I mean by re-writing the narrative in the collective unconscious. You have to see them doing the right thing in your imagination so clearly that if forces them to see it in their sub-conscious.
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